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Guest · Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 Post subject: So, when can we expect 0.6?

Isn't it time for some new nightlies? Razz

Zachariah · Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 703 Location: Earth

Isn't it time to use Search?
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Guest · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 Post subject:

I've searched. Oh, how I've searched. The latest I found on 0.6 was this thread and the latest "won't say" was from Nov 25, 2004.

I was hoping for some news Razz

idbehold · Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

Ok, this is going in my sig:

Guest · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 Post subject:

Org · Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 349

When 0.6 will be released? I believe the short answer would be the classic "when it's ready". The long answer would be "when rue feels it's ready" :-).

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Org · Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 349

idbehold, why be so negative? We have perfectly well working version of Adblock in our hands right now. Why should the next major version be rushed out half-finished?

rue and wonkothesane are doing this on their free time. They are contributing their efforts for all of us - including you, idbehold - for free. I think that the least we can do is to respect that contribution. Maybe you could take a good look at the release history of rue: awesome stuff like Adblock V0.5 and SessionSaver V0.2d1Nightly. IMO, his past work has been among the very best the whole Mozilla extension community has been able to produce.

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Guest · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 Post subject:

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rue · Developer Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 752

idbehold:
It's worth remembering: the only reason you know about v.6 is because I broke the silence for n39. If the decision had been anything other, you'd be wiping the tears on someone else's forum.
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I wouldn't put it past me to note all IPs you've posted from, then hard-wire the site to deliver v.5 for your indefinite future :P

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Guest · Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 Post subject:

rue: I'm with you that there are a lot of negative posts about the next version of adblock, especially in this thread, but it would help if you would post something about the status of the next release instead of issuing threats ...

I think people are right to be wondering when the next version is since we've been hearing that it is under development for sometime now, yet nothing tangable is available, not even a screenshot of the new interface which it apparently has

adblock has a website, you could put it to use by posting a news update once in a while to help sooth the anxious among us.

just a thought.

--loyal adblock user

idbehold · Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

Adblock 0.5, Development Build 2:
This branch is tested *solely* under Mozilla 1.3.1 WaMCom -- proceed with caution

Mozilla 1.3.1 Released: May 8th, 2003
Mozilla 1.4.0 Released: July 1st, 2003

Sorry for rushing you
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Org · Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 349

We have this fine tool in our use and you choose to be just plain mean :-(. Pretty damned lame. New version or not, in any case you get so much more than you paid for.

Lanny Chambers · Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 9

Careful with those assumptions. Like me, rue prefers to use Mac OS9. WaMCom 1.3.1 is the latest version of Mozilla that runs under OS9. I can't speak for rue, but I'm not letting a browser dictate what operating system I use.

The current version of Adblock is the best thing to hit browserdom since Autothenticate (for NN4). Nothing is perfect, but Adblock does 99% of what I want it to do, and never causes problems. I'm in no hurry to be a guinea pig for new minor features.

Guest · Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 Post subject:

wow · Guest

Does the 2nd post on http://aasted.org/adblock/viewtopic.php?t=1438 mean that you have a whitelist feature in 0.6??? Well, then release it asap...., puhleaseeee

Or if you just have to hold 0.6 for sometime, release a 0.6rc1! I can live with that. You have no idea how much that whitelist can improve my life!

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Guest · Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 Post subject: Re: Release 0.6!

whitelist feature

Zachariah · Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 703 Location: Earth

"What does it mean?" -- it is just only as much as I know, and it's really the best answer there is so far (unless you count points for humor, in which case idbehold's signature "...planned to be released when Microsoft decides to make Windows open source" would win)

With filterset.g I only see about 1% of the ads on the web.

I have made it not block "banner" because of it giving me a false positive, and you know what -- I think the rest of the list makes up for it, because I still don't see many ads.

A carefully crafted filterlist is far more important than a whitelist. I see no way that a user could "urgently" need it.

but I am eagerly awaiting it's release
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IceDogg · Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 109

I wouldn't call it urgently needed, but I think it would be helpful. If you have a site you want to support you could ad it to the whitelist. But like you say, It's not "urgently needed" but I still can't wait. LOL. new toy and all.

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Guest · Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 Post subject:

Hi, I would also like to hear something of a status update.. the current adblock break the latest Mozilla build. I'm currently surfing the web with all adds on, and I'm getting deaf from all the commercials screaming at me..

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ShunterAlhena · Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 40

Now, don't get me wrong, but I think that the sheer size of users you managed to amass means some responsibility.
You are an amazing people to make all this effort for nothing (I don't even know your real names!), and I never could understand eg DC++-s developer who has millions of people and still releases his work letting anyone tamper with it.

But, this "when it's ready" and "wait patiently" stuff is still a bit... eh... annoying. Firefox 0.9.3 was kinda stable and good, wasn't it? Just like 0.5.2.039! And they still released 1.0 and in the meanwhile made countless builds available! So, what I'm asking for is... a reliable featurelist, news, possibly a screenshot... anything concrete.
I prolly don't see how could that damage the cause. Make a statement in big bold letters "Subject to CHANGE" and nobody will revolt if something differs when /or if/ 0.6 is finally released.
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Guest · Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 Post subject:

kstahl · Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 Post subject:

There will be a whitelist.
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Guest · Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 Post subject: Thank You!

I've seen a lot of belly aching in this thread and I wanted to inject some encouragement. Guys you have a great piece of software that I can't thank you enough for creating. Thank you for making surfing a pleasant experience again.

I'm very eager to check out the next release. So again, thanks again for all the under appreciated work you've put into this project.

ShunterAlhena · Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 40

Guest · Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 Post subject:

Well my question is, when is Adblock 0.5 going to be properly released? It has been using the developer notation of Adblock 0.5 d2 nightly 39 for some time. Having a version linked to under Install on the website is a bit less forboding than Dev Builds for beginner users.

daniel · Guest

for all those complainers: adblock is open source, isn't it? if you really want a feature make a private build for yourself or get someone to do it for you Smile

i want whitelisting and better control interface myself, but why all the whining? i'm sure rue has a life of his own and probably doesn't want to give it all for adblock!

Hanu · Guest

Because of this discussion I decided not to use AdBlock.

ShunterAlhena · Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 40

idbehold · Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

What would be nice is if they kept an updated source file. I mean come on, if you're not going to work on it, atleast let others have a shot a finishing your work.

[edit by wonko: vulgarity *bad*, idbehold]
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wonkothesane · The Other Developer Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 210

idbehold: the source is available if you want to work on it. Nothing (except the specter of unnecessary work, maybe) is stopping anyone from updating/upgrading/adding new features.

idbehold · Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

Yes yes, the 20 month old source.
http://www.mozdev.org/source/browse/adblock/adblock/content/
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wonkothesane · The Other Developer Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 210

idbehold: Actually, the latest XPI was updated eight or nine months ago, not twenty. rue had problems connecting to mozdev's CVS server and so stopped using it. Also, I'm trying to do you a favor here by stopping rue from banning you. I'm not going to work very hard at it, though, so consider yourself warned.

ShunterAlhena: It's not a question of whether we will do the work -- we already have.

Pretty much any work done on 0.5 right now will be completely wasted once 0.6 comes out, so there's not much incentive for anyone else to bother.

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idbehold · Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

Well, can you show us the work you have so far? Maybe putting it in the place it should be?
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