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Bobby_Peru



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004    Post subject: Site Detects Blocking & Blocks Content Reply with quote

Code @ http://www.environmentalchemistry.com/ detects Blocking and prevents content display. I looked at the page source code, and objects, but nothing jumps out for this issue (it's beyond me -there is code at the bottom of the page -see below- saying don't click-some type of test- perhaps that is it). While this particular site is of little interest to me, it does present a potential problem for blocking, if more widely adopted.

Unable to bookmark a url for the site that will work, unlike a site in a recent Thread here, in which that did work.

Any ideas on a work-around for the site in question (other than disabling AdBlock, adding ad source urls to Host File, or subscribing), and more importantly, in general?

(Ongoing discussion at DSL/Broadband Security Forum Banner Ads - Forceware?

Thanks!
[edit: added code]
Code:


<div id="id44341103DIV"><a href="/ad/dont/click/banner/test.html?banner=adfarm" id="id4434
 *1103A" title="Don't click this is a bogus link to test browser issues"><img src="/links/sr
 *ad2348934mrurl/banners.affiliatefuel.com/ab/g/banners/ads/ad.gif?b=14909&amp;/links/srad23
 *48934mrurl/www.affiliatefuel.com/c/i=pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/120x600&amp;c=46
 *8x60" alt="" id="id44341103IMG" border=0></a></div>

(*) WARNING 1 long line(s) split
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MW
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wouldn't even bother with a page like that...if u need the info so bad from a site like that just loads the stupid ads (or change AdBlock to hide instead of remove)
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Bobby_Peru



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Hide" does not work. Of course one could disable AdBlock or the proxy of choice. But this just may become more common.....
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Org



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hide worked for me.
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Bobby_Peru



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Org wrote:
Hide worked for me.
hmmm, interesting. Retried after re-flushing TBE's Closed Tab History and browser Cache, and still get sent to http://www.environmentalchemistry.com/banblock.html : "Banner Blocking Detected ..."

Running Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8 -Win2KP-
Java and Java script Enabled, Advanced Java all de-selected except "Change Images", TBE.....

In case this might aid those with bigger brains than I, in developing a solution for AdBlock, the following code was posted ( http://www.computercops.biz/postt28204.htm ) by JD5000 of JD5000's Proxo Filter Set fame, as a solution for Proxo -
Code:
Name = "Disable EC Anti-Ad Blocker/Opera Script"
Active = TRUE
URL = "www.environmentalchemistry.com"
Bounds = "$NEST(<script,</script>)"
Limit = 9000
Match = "*function m\1\(\){*"
        "document.getElementById\('on\0'\).style.display='none';*"
        "document.getElementById\('srad\2'\).style.display='inline';*"
Replace = "<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript" >\r\n"
          "function m\1(){\r\n"
          "document.body.style.visibility='visible';\r\n"
          "document.getElementById('on\0').style.display='none';\r\n"
          "document.getElementById('srad\2').style.display='inline';\r\n"
          "}\r\n"
          "</script>"
          "$SET(script=)"


Seems to me that the particular site in question is not the issue, as much as having a work-around available should others emulate it.


Last edited by Bobby_Peru on Thu Apr 01, 2004; edited 2 times in total
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. Hide does not work.

BTW, you shouldn't have to "disable" Adblock to view the content on any site, IMHO.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that your "shouldn't have to" carries much weight actually. It sure is annoying but it is the webmaster prerogative to run such a detection script, like it or not.
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Lanny Chambers
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

...as it is our prerogative to ignore his Deathless Thoughts(tm).
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
I don't think that your "shouldn't have to" carries much weight actually. It sure is annoying but it is the webmaster prerogative to run such a detection script, like it or not.


You're right it is the "webmaster's prerogative"... But, it is also the prerogative to the end user viewing the site to block those (banner) ads as well. And, no one can tell me otherwise Exclamation
BTW, there is always ways around anti-banner blocking techniques. Twisted Evil
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kstahl
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucif4 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I don't think that your "shouldn't have to" carries much weight actually. It sure is annoying but it is the webmaster prerogative to run such a detection script, like it or not.


You're right it is the "webmaster's prerogative"... But, it is also the prerogative to the end user viewing the site to block those (banner) ads as well. And, no one can tell me otherwise Exclamation
BTW, there is always ways around anti-banner blocking techniques. Twisted Evil


Right. I wasn't trying to imply that someone should be allowed to force ads down our throats. But on the other hand, webmasters trying to block the blockers (so to speak) are not doing anything wrong either. They are in their full right to use every (legal) trick and tool to keep their ads from being blocked. The post I answered seemed to say that a website should not be allowed to stop adblock users from visiting the page, which I disagree with.

If you happen upon such a page you have a few options, either disable Adblock and endure the ads, go somewhere else (as Lanny noted above), or try to find another blocking solution. Implying that the webmaster is doing something bad is not a very impressive or even defensible claim.
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