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New doubleclick ads that aren't blocked by adblock

 
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CalculationMachine



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006    Post subject: New doubleclick ads that aren't blocked by adblock Reply with quote

I noticed a doubleclick ad today that is not blocked by ad-block even with seemingly correct filters.

The ad url is:

Code:

http://ad.doubleclick.net/ad/fark.maxim.dart/homepage;tile=1;sz=728x90;ord=1149526802?

There is a filter for *.doubleclick.net but this image is still showing up, I assume it is an issue related to the semi-colons.

Ads can be seen (and tested for removal) at http://www.fark.com/
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ernie



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My filter includes
Code:
*doubleclick.net*
and seems to block double click adds on the page referenced.
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IceDogg



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

*doubleclick* from Rick's Easylist works too, and I've not seen false positives yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006    Post subject: Re: New doubleclick ads that aren't blocked by adblock Reply with quote

I have noticed this, too. There are plenty examples on fool.com, doubtless there are others. One example:
http://www.fool.com/news/commentary/2006/commentary06060610.htm

Interesting to note is the way they do it. Instead of putting an image in, they put a div in with javascript inside. The javascript writes an image to the div. I'm not sure if this is why adblock doesn't get rid of them, but I think it is.

Notice that you can get a list of images on the page from adblock and it will have the doubleclick images in italics to indicate that they are matching the rule, but the images still show up. Unlike the other images which flash when you highlight the corresponding line on the image list, the blocked ones act as if adblock is unaware of them.

A quick fix, but by no means a good one, is to add [ad.doubleclick.net] and [ad.3ad.doubleclick.net] to the hosts file and point them at 127.0.0.1 as is below.

127.0.0.1 ad.doubleclick.net. ad.3ad.doubleclick.net.

There may be other aliases like .3ad., but I didn't see them in a few minutes of poking.

CalculationMachine wrote:
I noticed a doubleclick ad today that is not blocked by ad-block even with seemingly correct filters.

The ad url is:

Code:

http://ad.doubleclick.net/ad/fark.maxim.dart/homepage;tile=1;sz=728x90;ord=1149526802?

There is a filter for *.doubleclick.net but this image is still showing up, I assume it is an issue related to the semi-colons.

Ads can be seen (and tested for removal) at http://www.fark.com/
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red_beard_neo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed this on Fark as well. What worked for me was to simply uninstall and reinstall AdBlock, not sure if the recent FF update had anything to do with it.
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e1mer



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006    Post subject: noscript Reply with quote

It is even odder than it looks, the fool page is using
javascript to load the doubleclick adds
even tho I have javascript blocked in
firefox (with the noscript extension.)

Those clever guys.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Adblock Plus 0.7.
I have no problems with it, and my filter is: *doubleclick.net/*
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whollyhis



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006    Post subject: Host File Work Around Reply with quote

How can I use the host file workaround mentioned? Where do I go to implement that?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006    Post subject: Re: Host File Work Around Reply with quote

whollyhis wrote:
How can I use the host file workaround mentioned? Where do I go to implement that?

Thanks!
http://www.google.com/search?q=host%20file
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get any doubleclick ads on either of the links provided in this post using *doubleclick* as my filter and if I look at "Adblockable items" in either page all "doubleclick" links show as blocked.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed wrote:
I don't get any doubleclick ads on either of the links provided in this post using *doubleclick* as my filter and if I look at "Adblockable items" in either page all "doubleclick" links show as blocked.


Same here. I am however using adblock plus 0.7.2
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whollyhis



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006    Post subject: Inconsistent Reply with quote

The page I view the ads on (http://news.yahoo.com/comics/garfield;_ylt=AjRbWAp_B9wGSMGZT6IUnZYA_b4F;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)
inconsistently display or blocks the doubleclick ads. Sometimes the show up, sometimes not. And it just started this recently.

I block anything *doubleclick.net/* and */ad/* both of which are part of the ad URL so I really should be golden...
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Fox



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I normally use Adblock Plus 0.7.
*But now i made new profile and installed Adblock 0.5.3.042 and after restart i installed Filterset.G Updater 0.3.0.4.
Adblock blocks doubleclick ads at http://www.fark.com .
*I then installed NoScript 1.1.4.1 and now doubleclick ads at fark.com are Not blocked, because now
Filterset G filter @@/ad/.*\w{10,30}/ somehow whitelistes it, WTF.
*I disabled NoScript thru extension manager, and now again ads are blocked,
(yes that Filterset.G whitelisting filter does not effect now, WTF.)

I deleted whole profile.

*New profile with NoScript only, doubleclick ads at fark.com are Not blocked.
*I installed Adblock Plus 0.7.0.2, and after restart Filterset.G Updater 0.3.0.4,
again Filterset G filter @@/ad/.*\w{10,30}/ whitelistes them, but somehow i can't see them:)
*I disabled NoScript thru extension manager, and now again ads are blocked,
and yes whitelisting filter does not effect anymore.

(Edit3: It's JavaScript disabled + @@/ad/.*\w{10,30}/ -whitelisting filter issue.)
That filter is very odd/stupid, what does it even mean.
Anyway, it Whitelistes some ads here: http://www.net130.com/CMS/index.html

edit: i Linked this post here.
edit2: heh, Fark/doubleclick ads HTML Source has <noscript> -part,
so if JavaScript is disabled with NoScript or with Firefox, doubleclick ads are loaded without JavaScript.
Different type links and images, and then that bad Filterset.G filter whitelistes them.
(you can disable it in Adblock Plus 0.7 and everything is ok.)


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IceDogg



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use NoScript and it blocks them ads just fine for me. However, I don't use either G's Filterset or FiltersetG updater. So, maybe it's not an issue with NoScript but with the updater, or the filterset. Just Info to help solve the mystery/problem.

PS I know you said there was issues with one of the filters, but you also made it seem like NoScript was to blame.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

IceDogg wrote:
PS I know you said there was issues with one of the filters, but you also made it seem like NoScript was to blame.

First i did think it was NoScript issue, (I did forget to edit that part, sorry.)
But it's JavaScript disabled + @@/ad/.*\w{10,30}/ -filter issue, you must have both.
You can also disable JavaScript with Firefox and also use that whitelisting filter and get same result,
doubleclick ads are not blocked.

And i did also notice (JavaScript disabled + @@/ad/.*\w{10,30}/ -filter)
that when Adblock Plus 0.7 Check banner links -option is enabled, ads are whitelisted, but you can't see them.
(Links are blocked.) If Check banner links is disabled, ads are whitelisted and you see them.

But this is 100% JavaScript disabled + @@/ad/.*\w{10,30}/ -whitelisting filter issue.
If you fix, delete or disable that filter, everything is Ok.


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Wladimir Palant



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

@IceDogg: I think this site simply shows different ads when JavaScript is disabled. The real problem is this whitelisting filter in Filterset.G - it is by far too general.
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IceDogg



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your right WP, on both counts.

Personally I like my whitelisting to a minimum.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I had the same problem: the URL in my case is:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/07/bofh_2006_episode_22/

I added "doubleclick.net" as the first filter and it didnot block several of the images from doubleclick.net, including this one:

http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/jump/reg.oddsandsods.4159/bofh;pos=middle;site=uk;tile=3;sz=336x280;ord=123456789?

The doubleclick images showed up in my list of blockable elements using this filter:

@@/ad/.*\w{10,30}/

...which is a whitelist from Filterset.G. This would appear to be the problem. This regexp appears to match anything starting "ad/" followed by any number of characters, then between 10 and 30 alphanumeric characters. Bizarre - I don't think that this is what is intended by this pattern.

In Filterset.G Updater, turning whitelisting off (it is marked as Beta, after all), and forcing a refresh fixed the problem for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
Try Adblock Plus 0.7.
I have no problems with it, and my filter is: *doubleclick.net/*


how can i do it?
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