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OK Guys - Certain Java Applets wont run when I have Adblock installed. Its been posted numerous times all over - it never seemed to get fixed. My particular problem is Online mail at cyber-rights.net - its all done in java. Anyway I tried removing ALL Filters (current Adblock default filters) and it works fine. So its obviously a filter setting thats causing it. It seems to load fine w/ no filters.

What Adblock filters should I remove to try and prevent this error form happening? Obviously deleting all of them makes adblock useless - but Im hoping one particular filter thats probably causing this can be removed.

Anyone have any ideas?

G · Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 550

How can we tell you which filters are responsible if we don't know what filters you're using? Regardless, you should be able to figure it out yourself - just delete them (or add them back) one-at-a-time.
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HALP! · Guest

I was just using default Adblock filters. It wasnt allowing Java.
After deleting all it worked....

This applies to java games and other stuff not just my particular site.

G · Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 550

There are no "default" Adblock filters.
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idbehold · Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

rue · Developer Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 752

HALP:
If a filter was responsible, then you'll never know which one -- you removed them all. However. An undesirable filter is not the same as the Java-bug. That bug always causes a throttling of the cpu, often accompanied by a crash. If you're so inclined, LiveCharts is the authority-site for testing.
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idbehold:
For clarity: that's an old dev-file. It was decided to include in public release, for those curious enough to look.

Org · Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 349

I don't think that the Java bug is dependant on any filter list. It's possible to demo the bug even with empty filter list and Adblock disabled. The only really sure way to fix it is to uninstall Adblock. Who knows if the real problems lies in the Java code, base Mozilla code or Adblock? I wonder if Sun Java developpers would be willing to investigate this if asked politely.

For me personnally Adblock is way more important than Java, but YMMV.

Interesting filter list, BTW. Here it is in more readable form:

*/core/
.tradedoubler.
/[\W\d](double|fast)click[\W\d]/
/[\W\d](onlineads?|ad(banner|click|cycle|frame|images?|js|log|serv(er|e)?|stream|_string|s|trix|vertisements?|view|v|xchange)?)[\W\d]/
/[\W\d]click(stream|thrutraffic|thru|xchange)[\W\d]/
/[\W\d]dime(xchange|click)[\W\d]/
/[\W\d]value(stream|xchange|click)[\W\d]/
/[\W\d_](top|bottom|left|right|)?banner(s|id=|\d|_)[\W\d]/
/[\W_](b(an|nr)s?|jump|redir(ect|s)?)[\W_]/
/\/buy_assets\//
/\D\d{2,3}x\d{2,3}\D/
/bd.m?
/macosrumors\.com\/a?i\//
as-us.falkag.net
atdmt.com
atwola.com
backbeatmedia.com
bluestreak.com
cgi-bin*popup.js
cgiscripter
http://a.tribalfusion.com
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrtop
http://i.imdb.com/pro/
http://images.paypal.com
http://opi.yahoo.com
http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/
http://ptrads.rollingstone.com
http://spinbox.macworld.com/
http://tvguide.com/include/template/images/nav.swf
http://www.avforums.com/heading.php
http://www.imdb.com/google/
http://www.macosrumors.com/images/borders
http://www.macrumors.com/dtxml
http://www.qksrv.net/
http://www.resellerratings.com
http://www.salon.com/Creatives/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/media/
http://www.thinksecret.com/images/got-dirt-.gif
http://www.versiontracker.com/lastchance.js
http://www.versiontracker.com/stuff/
kermit.macnn.com
mads.gamefaqs.com
osdn.com
rcm.amazon.com
us.yimg.com/a/
yimg.com/*.js

HALP! · Guest

Thanks for helping me better understand guys. I was a bit confused - obviously the bug exists regardless of filters.

However, when i did Remove All - even with adblock installed I could use the java based email @ cyber-rights.net. This is was made me think I could somehow tweak the filters to allow for this to work. These Java problems are my only complaint with Adblock. Everything else is perfect. I suppose when the "witelist" feature finally arrives it wont be a problem anymore because you can simply whitelist said sites. - correct? I can hardly wait....

Otherwise It tells me my java is disabled and gives me a link on how to enable/configure it for Mozilla.

G · Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 550

I'm confused - if the bug exists regarless of filters, then removing all filters wouldn't help. If removing them does fix the problem, it's not a bug, and can be easily fixed.
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rue · Developer Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 752

HALP:
when cyber-rights was unusable, what were the symptoms?

G · Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 550

That's an odd filter list. For example - why would you block osdn.com?
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HALP! · Guest

Any idea on why w/ No filters it works fine but with the filters:

G · Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 550

To test it out, I'd have to install their software, so you're on your own. Just use trial-and-error - remove them all, then add one and try it out, then add another and try it, etc. until you get to the one that breaks it.
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Guest · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 Post subject:

It doesnt require any software download. Its all java webmail based - its a free secure account/signup too.

HALP! · Guest

HALP! · Guest

Im sorry, I just tested it again. I get that Error Regardless of filters. I forgot to restart FF when I removed filters when last testing. It appears that with Adblock installed I get this error no matter if I have no filters at all.

Also about every 4th or 5th time it will just crash Firefox. But normally I just get that error.

NJH · Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 183 Location: Hampshire, England

kstahl · Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 Post subject:

Actually, I think the 1.5.0/5.0 version is the official release now.
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NJH · Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 183 Location: Hampshire, England

I've just tried www.java.sun.com. The manual download file you get is 1.4.2.05

kstahl · Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 Post subject:

Strange, I only see references to 5.0.

Anyway, the main thing is that 1.5.0, or 5.0, is out of beta.
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G · Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 550

According to the site, J2SE 5.0 was released on Sept. 30.
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HALP! · Guest

Yes Latest... as in 5.0

NJH · Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 183 Location: Hampshire, England

I think it is as confusing as hell. If you go to www.java.sun.com and follow the Java VM link, you end up with v1.4.2.05. On the other hand, if you follow the J2SE 5.0 then Download JRE, you end up with v1.5.0. Confused

Hushmail · Guest

Same error using Hushmail.com with JDK 5.0 Update 4.

Disabling Adblock all works without problem.